Showing posts with label ING. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ING. Show all posts

Monday, September 1, 2014

Hayle Supermarket Wars and ASDA on South Quay.



How ASDA ended up on South Quay, Hayle.

As Mayor, and a Hayle Town Councillor for the last seven years, and active on Social Media I am becoming aware that many people did not follow the developments of the "Supermarket Battles" or the recent history of South Quay and Hayle Harbour, and don't understand how an ASDA ended up being built on SouthQuay, Hayle.

I recently posted an explanation on Facebook which has received some praise, so I will re-post it here to help people understand.



 The Harbour came into the possession of ING around 2004, and amongst the various plans and proposals, South Quay renovation was starting to look like being the last phase of the overall development.

Suddenly supermarkets took an interest in Hayle, because of its position on the road network and its potential catchment area. Morrisons wanted the Jewson’s site at Carnsew, Sainsbury wanted to build on Loggans Moor nature reserve and marsh, and ASDA wanted to build on the Rugby Club. All of these wanted to come to Hayle, but the Penwith Retail study of 2007, (and the later Cornwall Retail Study 2010) which was evidence the planners are obliged to rely on said there WAS scope for an additional supermarket in Hayle, but ONLY ONE.

This made it a “Battle of the supermarkets” but then ING joined in by proposing their South Quay site for a supermarket development, without any supermarket brand being signed up.

ING’s advisors had learned something that the local councillors, and people interested in planning were to discover. Sequential Tests.

These were and are strong parts of government guidelines on planning, and serve to ensure development is in the best, or least harmful sites.

The Retail Sequential Test stated that a supermarket development site closest to an existing shopping centre is the preferred option as it enable footfall to the supermarket to be close to existing shops so they have a chance to compete for the new potential customers. (This put South Quay in the lead.)

The Flooding Sequential Test meant that sites least likely to be flooded or most easily protected against flooding are preferred sites (This effectively knocked Sainsbury out)

The two proposals, ASDA and Sainsbury both on Marsh Lane, also had largely unresolved Traffic and Transport issues with the already overloaded roundabout at Loggans Moor/Carwin.

These were the planning issues and policies that set ING’s South Quay as the Number One preferred site for a supermarket development.

Added to that were the additional “Planning Gains” for the South Quay site of ING having to carry out the highly expensive repairs to South Quay and Carnsew Quay, exposing and excavating Carnsew Dock and the Carnsew Sluice, replacing the sluice gates and repairing the sluice tunnels (“Black Houses”) so a sluicing regime could be restarted, making contributions to road improvements around Hayle, contributing to the new railway station approach, building a bridge from its supermarket to Penpol Terrace shops, and new routes through ISIS Gardens to Foundry, public promenade all around South Quay and public entertainment and recreation areas.
The final benefit was ING’s offer to hand ownership and control of the harbour over to a Hayle body.|

The South Quay supermarket planning application was the clear winner on planning grounds.

Originally ING were negotiating with Sainsbury, but they dropped out when they got the Penzance Heliport site, then ASDA switched from supporting the Rugby Club site and came to South Quay.

Graham.

Thursday, May 22, 2014

HAYLE SOUTH QUAY RENOVATION AND REPAIR TO QUAY WALLS




Long awaited repairs to Hayle's South Quay harbour walls and a repair to the collapsed section opposite Penpol Terrace Hayle are due to start in the next week or so.

Part of the general redevelopment of South Quay and the building of the iconic supermarket to be occupied by ASDA the quays have stood in a decaying and dilapidated state for decades but are now to be repaired and brought up to a safe and usable state including the large collapsed section that highlighted the air of neglect and decay.

This is also approximately the location for the footbridge from the South Quay 3 hour free parking area to the Penpol Terrace shopping area to improve access for locals and encourage ASDA shoppers to explore the existing character shops of Penpol and Foundry.

Graham.

Wednesday, January 23, 2013

The historic sluice gates  that used to be under the Swing Bridge in Copperhouse Pool Hayle, replaced by the current Flood Prevention gate many years ago were found buried near the Harbour Office during works on the new North Quay road and infrastructure.
They have been stored on North Quay while a use for them has been sought, but time is almost up, no-one has a use for them and they will soon have to be cut up into manageable pieces and disposed of.

The gates (pictured here on a foggy day in 1971)  were used for many years as part of the sluicing system of Hayle harbour to keep the navigation ways safe and clear for coastal shipping trade.
The gates would be a challenge to move as they are quite a size, unwieldy and 11 tons each!

UPDATE! After a fair bit of debate and a close vote Hayle Town Council agreed to have the sluice gates sited as a "feature" on King George V Memorial Walk, where they will be part of a permanant display with  planting and an information board.

Tuesday, January 8, 2013



Work is underway restoring the footpath and historic rail bridge along the old railway line across Wilson's Pool, connecting the eastern end of King George V Memorial Walk to Lethlean Lane and Hayle Recreation Ground.

Years of half hearted 'maintenance' by the old District/County councils have seen it "grown in" so the actual path dwindled to about 12-18 inches (30-45cm) in places, with scrub int
ruding from the sides, and parts of the embankment broken down to allow easy access to the reed beds and salt marsh.

Wilson's pool is actually part of the "Hayle and Carrick Gladden SSSI" (Site of Special Scientific Interest) , and Hayle Town Council who own the actual path/rail track have been in negotiations with Natural England who administer the SSSI, and other environmental and heritage agencies and bodies to get all the necessary permissions to go ahead.

The project is actually a Hayle Town Council "Jubilee Project" but was delayed until now to avoid the main bird nesting seasons, bird migration times, and mammal breeding seasons, but it is still called the Jubilee Walk project.

The path will be as wide as possible, with a ground stone surface of the type used for local and National joint use "Cycle and Pedestrian" paths, with excellent access for wheelchair disabled and pushchair family users.

It is hoped users will be encouraged to stay on the path and not stray onto the SSSI and we hope and encourage English Nature, RSPB and Mining Heritage bodies to consider educational and explanatory signs and interpretation boards.

It is hoped as well that the open aspect of the renovated path with prove a discouragement to under age drinking and other antisocial behaviour that has blighted this path in past years
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Friday, November 30, 2012

Bridge over Penpol Creek, Hayle. CONSULTATION



Most of the past plans for developing Hayle Harbour have had the idea of bridges linking various parts of the harbour, and the current plans were no exception.

INGs proposals which changed as the ideas developed mainly showed a footbridge between the centre of South Quay and Penpol Terrace, landing on the grass bank, with a crossing to the shops on Penpol Terrace, integrating the new Supermarket car park with the existing shopping centre, in effect creating a circular route under the viaduct into Foundry Square and back around to the Supermarket, which will have North and South main entrances. This would mean that whatever challenges Foundry shops face from the new Supermarket could be balanced by a proportion of the new shoppers easily accessing the rest of the Penpol and Foundry shops and services before or after a Supermarket visit, using the 3 hours free car parking.

This bridge would link directly across the car park to the public footpath Rights of Way around Carnsew Pool, and down past the Weir to the Point.

A bridge at this location would be attractive, useful, and become an integrated part of the new shopping area.

This is mainly what has been pictured in press releases and on the Internet, so people could be forgiven for thinking it was what was going to happen.

IT IS UNDER THREAT THOUGH, of being ‘POACHED’ by the “Hayle Harbour Trust” originally formed to oppose the ING harbour development, formed from the “Friends of Hayle Harbour” who opposed the development, which in turn had been formed from the “Hayle Residents Association” who were at that time opposing the harbour development.

The Hayle Harbour Trust (HHT) seek to be the recipients of harbour land and property when ING complete the development and move on, hoping to become the body that owns and manages Hayle Harbour in the future. (There will be Public Consultation on that in 2013.)

HHT would like to take over East Quay, where Baumbachs Boat Builders are, Strawberry Blonde’s hairdressers, the shellfish processing warehouse and the old Gasworks/Tyre Services depot etc. They have evolving plans for east Quay, but as the existing owners may have their own ideas of what should happen, we are some way away from any concrete proposals.

HHT want the bridge for THEIR plans, sited at the sea end of South Quay behind Philps Pasty Factory and shop, to connect South Quay to whatever future development MIGHT (or might not) happen on East Quay.
How many shoppers would walk all the way from their cars to the end of South Quay, cross a bridge to have to cross the road somewhere near the Royal Standard Pub and that road corner to access the Penpol Terrace shops? Few if any I suspect, and I believe that NOT having the bridge across the middle of Penpol Creek damages the whole future of Foundry as a shopping area.

Let Hayle Harbour Trust seek the funding for “their” bridge themselves in the future, if their ideas ever come to fruition, but please don’t damage the future prosperity and viability of Foundry shopping area by ‘stealing’ the centre bridge over Penpol Creek!

There will be an EXHIBITION AND PUBLIC CONSULTATION on the siting of the bridge at Passmore Edwards Institute, Hayle on 13th December 2012 from 12.0 noon, midday to 6.30pm which will be the basis for deciding where the bridge goes.

PLEASE DON’T MISS THIS CONSULTATION AND CHANCE TO HAVE YOUR SAY.
Graham Coad.

Monday, July 23, 2012

Hayle and Facebook

Hayle Town Council is now using Facebook Pages, and soon will be using it for for some of its official business, informing and getting feedback from Facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hayle-Town-Council/440862479279027 

..and the town Swimming Pool...
https://www.facebook.com/HayleSwimmingPool 

..and the campaign for A Sports Hall for Hayle...
https://www.facebook.com/SportsHallForHayle 


We want to let people know whats happening in Hayle, and even get feedback from the people if possible!


Saturday, June 30, 2012

Hayle Pool!


Hayle Swimming Pool open every day from now...

Just an update on Hayle Outdoor Swimming Pool....It's been open weekends throughout June, after an early start to coincide with the Jubille Weekends, but suffered from one of the rainiest wettest Junes on record!

Not to be deterred, as July is imminent it will be open every day (unless the weather is foul) from this weekend onwards, with all fingers crossed for a change to some decent summer weather!

It really DOES make a difference this year if people use the pool. With finances so tight every paying swimmer is a help, so PLEASE USE OUR POOL.

...and the Riviere Cafe at the pool for drinks light lunches and refreshments!

Wednesday, May 23, 2012

Copperhouse Pool- Silted up?



Copperhouse Pool is a familiar feature of Hayle, passed or glanced at most days by many of us and an attractive part of the town, scenic with the tide in, and a bonus for local and visiting bird watchers when the tide is out.

Not a natural pool, it was artificially created when the harbour was a busy and developing port by building out from the northern, Towans side and the creation of a sluice gate to impound tidal water for sluicing the waterways and a bridge for improved access.

Part of Hayle’s tidal estuary system before the civil engineering and reshaping of the waterways as Hayle developed, the estuaries were open. There was no enclosure of Copperhouse Pool, no Black Road and Black Bridge to create Wilson's Pool, the Recreation Ground was open estuary, and as the tide surged up the open and unrestricted east lobe of the estuary, the only restriction may have been an early bridge at Loggans.

The Marsh Lane area up to Angarrack most likely really was marsh, possibly even tidal estuary still, and it is probable that with little restriction tides reached far higher than today.

Over the years, land around Loggans was built up and reclaimed, rivers tamed and rerouted,  and the east estuary was crossed by tracks and bridges that became  Lethlean Lane and Black Road, and the Swing bridge and road to North Quay.

Compared with the full surge of tidal water in pre-industrial days, each development restricted the flow of seawater, and with mine waste and agricultural silt being washed down the Angarrack River and other streams, the estuary silted up above each new obstruction. 

Marsh lane area still floods, but mainly from heavy rain, and is mostly moist grazing meadows.
The next bit of the estuary having silted up was made into the Recreation Ground (opened by HRH the Duke of Edinburgh 60 years ago in 1952) and the area restricted by Black road between Copperhouse and the bottom of Phillack Hill, known as Wilson's pool became salt marsh and reed beds, but was regularly inundated by fresh sea water at the highest tides for years.

The old wooden sluice gates under the Swing bridge could open fully allowing a good inflow of water, and a smaller sluice, buried beneath the Swimming Pool and road now, also allowed in a substantial flow of water which at the highest tides lapped almost at the very lip of the old docks and pool walls with a depth of water that allowed sailing yachts to the extent that there were regattas!

The first restriction though was the stopping of the sluice under the Swimming Pool some 30-40 years ago. With that closed off it was simply not possible at the high point of each tide for the same volume of water to come through the remaining sluice gates before the outside levels dropped again.

This was compounded when regular active sluicing finally ended, and to retain an element of sluicing effect,  one of the pair of wooden sluice gates  was braced shut at all times by a heavy timber prop, effectively halving the inward flow, and from that time the highest tides were noticeably lower, yet still enough to occasionally flood Wilson's Pool.

These wooden sluice gates were then replaced by a mechanically operated vertically rising steel flood gate as part of a flood prevention scheme, which restored the ability of tides to use the full size of the channel under the swing bridge.

Sadly for some time now, the control of the flood prevention gate has come under the Environment Agency, who “to be on the safe side”, keep the gate almost permanently down with only about a meter gap to allow water in.

This means that the water level is always far lower than it used to be, boats trying to row find the bottom scraping or oars, yachts with keels just can’t be used and during one swimming event contestants complained their hands were touching bottom.

This has given rise to the understandable idea that “Copperhouse Pool has silted up” but, while there must have been some silting, the biggest negative effect in recent years has been the policy of the Environment Agency.

Attempts by local groups  to get more water allowed into the pool regularly, have been rebuffed by the Environment Agency, on ECONOMIC grounds as they claim there is a cost element in sending an operator to Hayle to vary the height of the gate.

You MIGHT be aware that in other parts of the UK, the EA have spent large sums of money reverting farmland back to Salt Marsh, yet in Hayle they allow Wilson's Pool to dry out and change character.

Wilson's Pool and Copperhouse Pool are part of the Hayle Site of Special Scientific Interest which is managed by English Nature, most of Copperhouse Pool is owned by the RSPB, the Environment Agency have responsibilities, and the Harbour Company have legal rights and responsibilities. Only Hayle Town Council as the representative body of Hayle people has no rights.

Would YOU like to see higher water in Copperhouse Pool?



Wednesday, March 28, 2012

North Quay Bridge, Hayle Cornwall.
Nick Farrars photo shows workers preparing for todays concrete pour and the casting of North Quay Bridge, Hayle. Scheduled to take 14 hours from 7am this morning. The weather and forecast are perfect, so fingers crossed for no big accidents or road holdups for the fleet of cement mixer lorries!

Monday, March 26, 2012

North Quay new road and Swing Bridge OPEN


Sometimes it’s the little things that bring pleasure.
Tonight I was returning from seeing my father on his 80th birthday when I noticed that the old North Quay swing bridge had re-opened after road works the other side.

I swiftly turned around in the Central Garage and had the simple pleasure of driving over the old bridge and appreciating the new seawall and road surface, but THEN I noticed that the new elevated North Quay road was open…Deep joy!

With great satisfaction I drove for the first time along the new road, opened this afternoon, right down to where the Wave hub is then turned around and drove back, enjoying the experience, and the open prospect and views.

All these years after the harbour closed to major shipping  and all Hayle’s industries fell like dominoes, it is so satisfying to see major construction work rebuilding hayle harbour, and in my father, Bob Coad’s lifetime……..

One small drive for me, one significant step for Hayle Harbour!

Well done Council, Good work Carillion.

Graham Coad.

Thursday, March 15, 2012

HARBOUR PLANS PASSED BY SEC. OF STATE

The secretary of State has approved the planning application for ING's developement including a supernmarket and housing on South Quay, Hayle Harbour in Cornwall.

The controversial plans had been passed unanimously by the town council and then passed by Cornwall Council who were obliged to refer the matter to the Secretary of State as there were strong objections from English Heritage, a statutory consultee.

This means that the Secretary of State has decided that he can alow Cornwall Council to proceed with the planning application to the point of full approval and 'signing off' so that work can start.

Plans include extensive repairs and strengthening of historically important quay walls, resumption of sluicing to help keep the harbour viable, methods to guarantee future income for the harbour management, transfer of various property to local ownership as part of the regeneration of Hayle Harbour overall.

Hayle DID have a Fire Station..in WW2!

Well, it turns out that the mysterious stone/concrete circle on Merchant Curnow's Quay is the base of a World War 2 water tank for the temporary Fire Brigade that was grudgingly set up by the then district council at Penzance on the order of the government.

Water tanks were situated at useful points to top up the tenders in case mains water supply was disrupted by bombing, remember that during the war, Hayle still had a Power Station, a decent working harbour, and factories around the harbour doing important war work (including vital fuel additives for RAF)

It was sited at the east end of Hayle Causeway in what was later known as Blue Star Garage and is now a Tempest Photography factory.

Once the war ended, the district council rushed to disband Hayle's Fire Brigade, and the town has stated unprotected until now, when there are moves that could being a modern Fire Station to Hayle and revamp local services to improve cover and public safety.

Thursday, October 6, 2011

Hayle Supermarket Planning Results

At Cornwall Council's Strategic Planning Committee meeting at County Hall today, ING's South Quay supermarket planning application was approved.

Morrisons and ASDA schemes were refused.

It will be a while before we know if there will be any appeals or calls for Judicial Review.

An important day for the future of Hayle Harbour.

Graham.